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[Federberg]

If LeBron didn’t crave that last moment he wouldn’t have far more playoff game winning buzzer beaters than anyone in history. He also buried the Spurs in game 7 with a game ending jumper with less than a minute to go, and that was after scoring 17 in the 4th qtr of the game 6 comeback. Check out what he did to the Pistons in 2007 game 5 as a 22 year old, etc.

And dominating games while facing elimination is certainly part of being clutch. Won his last six game 7’s averaging over 35 points, stole the Celtics’ soul in 2012 game 6, destroyed GSW after being down 3-1, including the most clutch defensive play in history. He has rallied multiple times from a 2-0 hole, etc. This stuff is just pure hatred bro. In no universe am I trusting those guys over LeBron if we are talking all-time. Maybe now you’d have a case as he has struggled more in the 4th quarter of recent playoff runs.

you see this doesn't work. You need to go by percentages not absolute numbers. Of course he has a higher number he's played twice as many playoff games as most other folks

 

[Federberg]

Joel is not built like a natural basketball player.. his lower core (tree trunk legs up to his waist is huge) He is always gonna be prone for injury like Zion..

I agree. I'm just saying.. if the news it true and he actually is fit, then load managing him this year might be everything

 

[Federberg]

by the way, I think KD was insane with his comparisons of the 76ers and the 2017 Warriors. Is he really trying to absolve himself of joining a 73-9 team by throwing both LeBron and Klay under the bus?? Shameful!

 

[DarthFed]

you see this doesn't work. You need to go by percentages not absolute numbers. Of course he has a higher number he's played twice as many playoff games as most other folks

You can go off anything you like, and comparing LeBron as a playoff performer isn’t really going in anyone’s favor aside from MJ. The percentages say he’s pretty damn clutch overall. I mentioned a few weeks back about comparing him to Kobe in game 7’s, close out games, and games facing elimination. You won’t hear about that one much, same with Kobe blowing a 3-1 lead against Phoenix and quitting in the 2nd half of game 7.

I get 4-6 in the Finals is bad but his team was also the underdog in 6 or 7 of those finals, which pokes a gigantic hole in the narrative of him being on great teams his whole career. LeBron was arguably the best player on the floor in 2 or 3 of those finals he lost. It’s all just hatred because the guy is who he is. If MJ didn’t exist and LeBron didn’t talk politics there would be about 90% less hate. Ultimately, those who watched MJ know there isn’t a real comparison. The media of course just eats this up. Skip Bayless is a waste of DNA and he will bring up LeBron non stop like a scorned lover

 

[Federberg]

You can go off anything you like, and comparing LeBron as a playoff performer isn’t really going in anyone’s favor aside from MJ. The percentages say he’s pretty damn clutch overall. I mentioned a few weeks back about comparing him to Kobe in game 7’s, close out games, and games facing elimination. You won’t hear about that one much, same with Kobe blowing a 3-1 lead against Phoenix and quitting in the 2nd half of game 7.

I get 4-6 in the Finals is bad but his team was also the underdog in 6 or 7 of those finals, which pokes a gigantic hole in the narrative of him being on great teams his whole career. LeBron was arguably the best player on the floor in 2 or 3 of those finals he lost. It’s all just hatred because the guy is who he is. If MJ didn’t exist and LeBron didn’t talk politics there would be about 90% less hate. Ultimately, those who watched MJ know there isn’t a real comparison. The media of course just eats this up. Skip Bayless is a waste of DNA and he will bring up LeBron non stop like a scorned lover

I agree with most of that. I don't pay much attention to his politics to be honest. It's the campaigning to be call the GOAT that gets on my last nerve. Which of the finals do you consider his team to have been an underdog apart from in '17 and '18? I think in the rest they were at least evenly matched. I don't agree they were an underdog in '16. Everyone wants to forget it now, but Steph was not fully fit. That's not a defence against the loss, it's a rejection of the idea the Cavs were an underdog.

I don't know why people talk about him being the best player on the floor in losing finals, to me that's just a narrative used to defend him by his operatives. I mean.. so what?? One could easily say the same about Wemby this year or even Steph in 2019. It doesn't matter, they lost. I have no mercy for that. I don't know any other star where that's even brought up. It's utterly meaningless to me and if anything makes me loathe the guy more