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How is a fantasy movie being used as a vessel for political means.. ? That's like saying Wonder Woman is for the new women's movement or Black Panther is for Black Lives Matter.

Are you kidding? That's the MO of Hollyweird; political content not to look as political content going back 100 yrs.! Look at "Star Trek" created in '66 along w/ Batman series! "ST" was all about politics, race, & individual choice! The Federation was represented by us, then the Romulans & Klingons from evil empires; Russia/China m/b! The storylines of 3 seasons were riddled w/ political content; 1 ep. had a people pledging allegiance to an American flag! Come on, you know this already! :astonished-face::angry-face::yawningface::fearful-face::face-with-hand-over-mouth:
 

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See that means that you are cherry picking your movies casting.. 20 years ago noOne who had stated anything about what is highlighted above.. Did Nolan, Matt Damon or even Ludwig state that there's political reasons for the casting?
Yeah, that was 20 years ago...Hollywood has changed quite a bit. They used to be in the entertainment business. Not so much anymore.
And no, those guys would never admit their political reasons. You just have to decide for yourself. Look at Hollywood's leanings, that should give you a clue.
 

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well I went to watch The Odyssey. The good news is that I didn't fall asleep in the theatre which would be a sign that a movie is just pure trash. As we walked out, I asked the folks I watched it with what they thought.. two said..."ok", and the other said "alright". I think that's fairly accurate. It's a fairly long movie, and the fact that it sustained my attention is definitely in its favour. But I heard so much propaganda before I watched it, with folks raving about it that I expected to see something at least on par with Gladiator. It wasn't on that level. Sometimes a movie just lacks charisma, even if the ingredients are there. I thought Tom Holland, Anne Hathaway, Matt Damon, John Leguizamo were good. But...right at the first scene... I think it was Travis Scott as the Bard.. gave local theatre vibes.

As my friends said.. it was alright. But I'm not going to a cinema to watch that again. If it comes on tv, if it's near a scene I enjoyed I might stay and watch for a bit, but my time is too valuable to invest in sitting through that again. A movie can be long, it can have good actors in it. But sometimes it just lacks grandeur, sometimes it's just not.... epic
 

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well I went to watch The Odyssey. The good news is that I didn't fall asleep in the theatre which would be a sign that a movie is just pure trash. As we walked out, I asked the folks I watched it with what they thought.. two said..."ok", and the other said "alright". I think that's fairly accurate. It's a fairly long movie, and the fact that it sustained my attention is definitely in its favour. But I heard so much propaganda before I watched it, with folks raving about it that I expected to see something at least on par with Gladiator. It wasn't on that level. Sometimes a movie just lacks charisma, even if the ingredients are there. I thought Tom Holland, Anne Hathaway, Matt Damon, John Leguizamo were good. But...right at the first scene... I think it was Travis Scott as the Bard.. gave local theatre vibes.

As my friends said.. it was alright. But I'm not going to a cinema to watch that again. If it comes on tv, if it's near a scene I enjoyed I might stay and watch for a bit, but my time is too valuable to invest in sitting through that again. A movie can be long, it can have good actors in it. But sometimes it just lacks grandeur, sometimes it's just not.... epic
Thanks for your thoughts on Odyssey, I have been getting wonderful reviews from friends etc
Also heard that it sustained attention and people didnt feel like it was 3 hours long
Hopefully I can go in the next week or so
 

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Thanks for your thoughts on Odyssey, I have been getting wonderful reviews from friends etc
Also heard that it sustained attention and people didnt feel like it was 3 hours long
Hopefully I can go in the next week or so
definitely sustained attention. No regrets watching it. I just won't be adding that to the catalogue of movies I would describe as a rewatchable
 

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I just watched “The Odyssey” on an IMAX screen in the Bay Area ( waaay overpriced but that’s another story about movie-going these days) but I enjoyed it.

Always been a Greek Mythology buff so was anxious to see Nolan’s spin on it, as he is one of my fave directors. The Trojan horse flaskbacks were among the best, leave it to Nolan to convey the grittiness & claustrophobia/danger of the plan.

Forgetting the (IMO) fatuous criticisms of casting the gorgeous Lupita Nyongio as Helen of Troy, I did like Nolan’s depiction how she did not come out “unscathed” by the war she supposedly started. As in Homer’s the Odyssey it’s aptly conveyed her marriage to Menelaus is not an ideal happily ever after.

The scenes with both Cyclops & Circe were great, conveying the horror of powers beyond human control.

On a side note, does Charlize Theron have a portrait of her aging in her attic, because her depiction of Calyso was as beautiful as she’s ever looked to me.

Nolan’s Odyssey is realistically dirty & messy, not picture postcard mythology the ways it’s usually depicted on screen ( though Kirk Douglas version will always have a fond place in my heart). The acting was top notch, and I found it interesting that all the actors including the English used a sort of mid Atlantic accent , I’m guessing again a Nolan touch.

I agree it didn’t quite jell completely but some passages were very powerful and it’s the first version that conveys what a colossal waste of human lives the whole Illiad/Odyssey was with how the poet(s) Homer depicted. The Gods in those Greek works are such spiteful petty beings.

Sort of a spoiler but I agree with how per this article the whole Trojan Horse was depicted in a different way…..
 

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I just watched “The Odyssey” on an IMAX screen in the Bay Area ( waaay overpriced but that’s another story about movie-going these days) but I enjoyed it.

Always been a Greek Mythology buff so was anxious to see Nolan’s spin on it, as he is one of my fave directors. The Trojan horse flaskbacks were among the best, leave it to Nolan to convey the grittiness & claustrophobia/danger of the plan.

Forgetting the (IMO) fatuous criticisms of casting the gorgeous Lupita Nyongio as Helen of Troy, I did like Nolan’s depiction how she did not come out “unscathed” by the war she supposedly started. As in Homer’s the Odyssey it’s aptly conveyed her marriage to Menelaus is not an ideal happily ever after.

The scenes with both Cyclops & Circe were great, conveying the horror of powers beyond human control.

On a side note, does Charlize Theron have a portrait of her aging in her attic, because her depiction of Calyso was as beautiful as she’s ever looked to me.

Nolan’s Odyssey is realistically dirty & messy, not picture postcard mythology the ways it’s usually depicted on screen ( though Kirk Douglas version will always have a fond place in my heart). The acting was top notch, and I found it interesting that all the actors including the English used a sort of mid Atlantic accent , I’m guessing again a Nolan touch.

I agree it didn’t quite jell completely but some passages were very powerful and it’s the first version that conveys what a colossal waste of human lives the whole Illiad/Odyssey was with how the poet(s) Homer depicted. The Gods in those Greek works are such spiteful petty beings.

Sort of a spoiler but I agree with how per this article the whole Trojan Horse was depicted in a different way…..

I'm patient! Will wait for it to hit cable & see Tik Tok clips! The last mythological movie I can recall is w/ Henry Cavil; "Immortals!" Loved the Gods (Luke went from Apollo in "Clash Of The Titans" to Zeus), but the movie was wanting w/ how it was filmed! Mickey Rourke was at his end & John Hurt didn't do much! :yawningface::fearful-face::fearful-face::face-with-hand-over-mouth::face-with-hand-over-mouth:
 

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Been watching movies my whole life and directors/writers always have made “artistic decisions”, that are informed by their background, creative intent & yes political orientation. Among other things.

That is nothing new; it’s been happening, for I dunno, 6000 + years of recorded history. LOL.

Reducing a film to just the viewer’s political prism of the world seems a bit limiting to say the least, IMO.