What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

[Murat B.]

Is it just me or is everything falling apart? Anyone read the story, or watched the movie Life of Chuck? That's how I feel. Everywhere I used to go to, shops or restaurants, are worse. Every government branch I deal with are worse. I have never been "get off my lawn" type of guy. I love technology, science, exploration...My kid's school drives me crazy. They teach nothing except being kind to everyone. How do you fucking build a space ship that will go to space on kindness alone?
Fuck, I am depressed, that's for sure.

 

[britbox]

Is it just me or is everything falling apart? Anyone read the story, or watched the movie Life of Chuck? That's how I feel. Everywhere I used to go to, shops or restaurants, are worse. Every government branch I deal with are worse. I have never been "get off my lawn" type of guy. I love technology, science, exploration...My kid's school drives me crazy. They teach nothing except being kind to everyone. How do you fucking build a space ship that will go to space on kindness alone?
Fuck, I am depressed, that's for sure.

I believe it's been happening for a while. A theory is that the old word of nation states is being destroyed or hollowed out from within... to usher in the new.

 

[Kieran]

I believe it's been happening for a while. A theory is that the old word of nation states is being destroyed or hollowed out from within... to usher in the new.

There is a great sense of that, when you look at the open borders mob, the incessant chanting that all cultures are equal and that there are no better systems of government, that these divisions are racist. There are probably more “traitors” openly active in the west now, and not only that, it’s fashionable. It’s not fashionable to be proud of or even reasonable about the necessity of the sovereign state. We live in times where our borders are porous and governments are not only casual about it, but would rather you didn’t mention it. Waving your own country’s flag is considered racist.

We’ve gone too soft and when the next terrible war happens we won’t know what hits us..

 

[Federberg]

Ironically I think Canada and the UK are ground zero for this. Just look at the recent case of the Brit who got stabbed and the police handcuffed him because he's white so he must have been "racist". Do you fucking job! Unless you can prove self defence there's no justification for a stabbing. FFS a homeowner in the UK gets in trouble for beating up a robber. You don't arrest the stabber?? Make it make sense! There is a deep ideological infiltration from the left that needs to be fixed urgently. In the UK it's clear it's jumped from the universities into the bureaucracy. I might actually vote for Restore, even though their pro-Brexit stance and they're not anti-Russia. It's a horrible position to be in. If the Tories would stand up and be who they once were before they were destroyed by Brexit they would be a no-brainer for me, but the fact is they are as complicit as Labour for the leftist ideological capture that started under their watch

 

[Kieran]

Ironically I think Canada and the UK are ground zero for this. Just look at the recent case of the Brit who got stabbed and the police handcuffed him because he's white so he must have been "racist". Do you fucking job! Unless you can prove self defence there's no justification for a stabbing. FFS a homeowner in the UK gets in trouble for beating up a robber. You don't arrest the stabber?? Make it make sense! There is a deep ideological infiltration from the left that needs to be fixed urgently. In the UK it's clear it's jumped from the universities into the bureaucracy. I might actually vote for Restore, even though their pro-Brexit stance and they're not anti-Russia. It's a horrible position to be in. If the Tories would stand up and be who they once were before they were destroyed by Brexit they would be a no-brainer for me, but the fact is they are as complicit as Labour for the leftist ideological capture that started under their watch

I think Kami makes sense and would be good, but the insult to injury part of the stabbing of that young lad piles up even higher when the police say a Sikh citizen can legally carry a huge feck off Duncan Macleod sword in public because it’s part of their culture. This is sick. It’s also part of the erasure of borders: an invisible line that separates one country from another is their laws and the application of those laws. If anyone doesn’t like those laws, go live elsewhere…

 

[Federberg]

I think Kami makes sense and would be good, but the insult to injury part of the stabbing of that young lad piles up even higher when the police say a Sikh citizen can legally carry a huge feck off Duncan Macleod sword in public because it’s part of their culture. This is sick. It’s also part of the erasure of borders: an invisible line that separates one country from another is their laws and the application of those laws. If anyone doesn’t like those laws, go live elsewhere…

it's utterly absurd! If you immigrate to a country it's incumbent on you to take on the culture. Do these people realise they are wilfully destroying their own culture to accommodate the needs and practices of those who claim to want to join? Imagine Saudi Arabia allowing people to move to their country and saying it's ok for women to walk around in boob tubes and mini skirts? Would that ever happen?? No! What are they doing??

 

[Murat B.]

There is a great sense of that, when you look at the open borders mob, the incessant chanting that all cultures are equal and that there are no better systems of government, that these divisions are racist. There are probably more “traitors” openly active in the west now, and not only that, it’s fashionable. It’s not fashionable to be proud of or even reasonable about the necessity of the sovereign state. We live in times where our borders are porous and governments are not only casual about it, but would rather you didn’t mention it. Waving your own country’s flag is considered racist.

We’ve gone too soft and when the next terrible war happens we won’t know what hits us..

The thing is, it is all top down. I still believe that the vast majority of people hate what is going on but the small minority has framed the argument in such a way that you and I cannot say anything without getting in trouble.
Canada is dead. Facts are now illegal, if it hurts a minority group.
I think a tipping point is coming though and it will not be pretty.

 

[Federberg]

I think Kami makes sense and would be good, but the insult to injury part of the stabbing of that young lad piles up even higher when the police say a Sikh citizen can legally carry a huge feck off Duncan Macleod sword in public because it’s part of their culture. This is sick. It’s also part of the erasure of borders: an invisible line that separates one country from another is their laws and the application of those laws. If anyone doesn’t like those laws, go live elsewhere…

The Economist weighs in on the Novak case today. Worth a listen. I don't think the system is two tier in terms of race. It's two tier in terms of an instinctive bias towards whatever identity group is the "weaker" in any situation. It could just as easily have been a woman assaulting a guy, and falsely claiming she was defending herself against sexual assault. In both cases the police would default, without evidence and make the same mistake. Yet we know that if a homeowner beats up a burglar the police are likely to arrest the homeowner immediately. Even though they know it's a burglar. It seems to me the default should be to handcuff the person who perpetrated the assault, regardless of their identity group. Get the injured party the medical care they need immediately. Then investigate and arrest whoever the offending party is. That strikes me as common sense

 

[brokenshoelace]

It's odd that with all the talk about open borders, immigrants, countries selling out their culture, etc... there is zero outrage about Israelis acting like they own the place in literally any country they set foot on, and doing so with a level of impunity that would send old white boomers into a free fall social media rabbit hole of paranoia if a brown person did it.

 

[britbox]

It's odd that with all the talk about open borders, immigrants, countries selling out their culture, etc... there is zero outrage about Israelis acting like they own the place in literally any country they set foot on, and doing so with a level of impunity that would send old white boomers into a free fall social media rabbit hole of paranoia if a brown person did it.

There is a lot of outrage over it.

 

[brokenshoelace]

There is a lot of outrage over it.

Nowhere near enough and IMO it's very obvious. With all the fear of Muslims/immigrants taking over, we can agree that they're nowhere near as protected by western governments as Israelis are. In the case of the latter, it is quite literally at the expense of the country itself, and they are protected in a way no other citizen is. Every day a law passes in the US that is 100% in the best interest of Israel. From re-defining what antisemitism is (to basically mean anything Israel doesn't approve of and can conveniently use) to most recently, fusing the US and Israeli defense industries. And of course, this does not begin to cover the amount of Israelis allowed to flee back home when caught in cases of child trafficking, pedophilia and other major crimes due to government interferences.

 

[britbox]

Nowhere near enough and IMO it's very obvious. With all the fear of Muslims/immigrants taking over, we can agree that they're nowhere near as protected by western governments as Israelis are. In the case of the latter, it is quite literally at the expense of the country itself, and they are protected in a way no other citizen is. Every day a law passes in the US that is 100% in the best interest of Israel. From re-defining what antisemitism is (to basically mean anything Israel doesn't approve of and can conveniently use) to most recently, fusing the US and Israeli defense industries. And of course, this does not begin to cover the amount of Israelis allowed to flee back home when caught in cases of child trafficking, pedophilia and other major crimes due to government interferences.

You get to hear what the media want you to hear (and we can have a discussion about who the mainstream media actually works for at some point)... many people are well aware of a lot of things going on. The outrage about immigration is overstated to a degree, in the sense that you think it's directed at migrants - it largely isn't. Most of the grass roots level concern is directed at the politicians and bureaucrats who are quite clearly compromised and not working in the interests in the populace they claim to serve. This goes way beyond "boomers.

 

[brokenshoelace]

This goes way beyond "boomers.

Boomers are the target audience, not the root, of course.

 

[Federberg]

Serious question about Lebanon. It's clear that the Lebanese government has no love for Hezbollah, and would love nothing more than to get rid of them. Is there a reason that the Lebanese government doesn't work in secret with the Israeli government/ intelligence services to rid Lebanon of these people. I appreciate that they're embedded deep amongst civilians, but in this day and age with modern technology, haven't we reached a point where this. might be feasible?

 

[britbox]

Boomers are the target audience, not the root, of course.

All sides get played. Divide and Conquer - it's how the few control the many. Everyone is the target audience.

 

[Kieran]

Nowhere near enough and IMO it's very obvious. With all the fear of Muslims/immigrants taking over, we can agree that they're nowhere near as protected by western governments as Israelis are.

No they’re not, that’s right, and thankfully. But they are protected coming into our countries and they’re protected in our countries when they commit crimes. We must be very wary of a massive influx of Muslims coming into the West, and yet the governments seem unperturbed about this..

 

[Federberg]

No they’re not, that’s right, and thankfully. But they are protected coming into our countries and they’re protected in our countries when they commit crimes. We must be very wary of a massive influx of Muslims coming into the West, and yet the governments seem unperturbed about this..

interestingly in the UK, net migration numbers have fallen. But I think primarily it's the good migration that's been the victim. Also an increasing number of Brits, wealthier are fleeing