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Murat B.

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Actually I think you're missing my point. The media is irrelevant in this. World leaders are not swayed by CNN or the Beeb's take. They see Trump with the tariffs, with Greenland, with this Iran fiasco, with threats to pull out of NATO, with support for Russia. They don't see this as normal. In fact it's so abnormal they're done. They want off the dollar, the want off SWIFT, they want to create and buy their own weapons. Nothing to do with the media. It's about ACTIONS
Still not getting it. No one is talking about world leaders. I am talking about regular people who make up 99.99999999% of the population, whose opinions are shaped, reshaped and shaped again by the media, social media and even AI. Do you think people listen to Trump more or listen to what is being SAID about Trump more? How many millions of morons STILL to this day believe that Trump's full quote was "There were good people on both sides" ?

And the issues you are talking about...are there valid economical and political discussions to be had? You agree or disagree is one thing but dismissing issues because it is brought up by the orange one is pure TDS:
Tariffs: It is an economical tool and policy. You are at a trade deficit and you think some countries are taking advantage of you, you may employ this, wrong or not.

Greenland: Your arch enemy is doing shady things around the Arctic. Greenland is a place of strategic importance. Starting a conversation about it is a strategy to wake some people up . Don't worry about HOW Trump starts that conversation. If you don't know by now he is not a "diplomat", well..

Iran: My Persian neighbor upstairs wears his Make Iran Great Again hat every day and prays to his god Trump finishes the job. Some like it, some don't.

NATO: Increase your spending on your military, pull your own weight , we are tired of carrying your sorry ass for all these years. That is his argument. It is a legit one. Come up with your own argument and let's talk. Again, Trump does not word it like that but read above. He will be blamed for many things but he will not be blamed for being a typical politician.

Russia: I am not buying that he supports Russia. "Support" is a strong word, implies direct involvement in my opinion. I am not seeing that but I am open to discussion.

Now, all these above arguments, how are they presented in the media and online?
 
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Still not getting it. No one is talking about world leaders. I am talking about regular people who make up 99.99999999% of the population, whose opinions are shaped, reshaped and shaped again by the media, social media and even AI. Do you think people listen to Trump more or listen to what is being SAID about Trump more? How many millions of morons STILL to this day believe that Trump's full quote was "There were good people on both sides" ?
lol! No I disagree. No surprise there. If we were talking about an opinion being expressed then I might consider your point about the media relevant. But we're not doing that. We're talking about an event that happened. In real life. How people respond to that is not being formed by the media. People still have agency, and contrary to those who are stuck in a social or professional media bubble that's still precisely what happened for me. I"ll remind you that my comment was about my reaction to the incident with the shooter. You took it upon yourself to diagnose my thinking, mine :D I found it amusing, I don't believe you meant harm or disrespect, but come on man.. I'm not some sheep that follows the herd dog of social media. I am capable of forming opinions about this administration based on their actions and I believe that many other people are also capable of that. As I mentioned Anne Applebaum coincidentally stated that many people in power in Europe also admitted to some scepticism about what happened. That is entirely due to all the drama that surrounds this administration. It is simply not a media construct. Sorry but no.. if you're making some other point that's fine, but remember you responded, you opined about an observation I made ;)
 
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