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[Murat B.]

I still think wanting the rebound more than the other guy in your team is not a bad thing. And assisting your teammates to score is also hardly the worse thing you can do during a basketball game . The guy worked HARD. He did not shoot well, he was not a natural scorer, so he compensated for his shortcomings and found other ways to be effective. I seriously appreciate that. Many players do not bother. I am not saying he is the best thing since sliced bread. I am talking about hard work and effort, and doing whatever it takes to help your team.
Edit: I was just listening to First Take on tv and Perk said something like " The guy left skin on the floor". I guess that is what I mean. Also, the only player that has 25000 points and 10000 assists other than Bron. I did not know that.

 

[Federberg]

I still think wanting the rebound more than the other guy in your team is not a bad thing. And assisting your teammates to score is also hardly the worse thing you can do during a basketball game . The guy worked HARD. He did not shoot well, he was not a natural scorer, so he compensated for his shortcomings and found other ways to be effective. I seriously appreciate that. Many players do not bother. I am not saying he is the best thing since sliced bread. I am talking about hard work and effort, and doing whatever it takes to help your team.
Edit: I was just listening to First Take on tv and Perk said something like " The guy left skin on the floor". I guess that is what I mean. Also, the only player that has 25000 points and 10000 assists other than Bron. I did not know that.

don't get me wrong, I like Russ. But it's not a case of wanting the rebound more than the other guy. He was literally taking it out of their hands. Or in other cases, compliant team mates were screening guys to give Russ to get the ball, when they could easily have caught the ball themselves. I didn't just see that a few times, in fourth quarters it was happening ALL the time. It was unnatural. It was as manufactured as the efforts the Heat went to, to get Bam that 83. I'm not mad at it, I'm just saying please don't tell me it's as honest an achievement as what Jokic does every game

 

[kskate2]

I 100% agree. CP3 was a more winning player in my view. I'm amazed that anyone would rank Russ higher than CP3

I don't think it was Russ so much as the team he was on. Them OKC days were pretty healthy in metrics. He still jacked up an insane amount of shots every game like he was auditioning at a bricklayers competition.