2025 French Open Men's Final: Yannik Sinner vs. Carlos Alcaraz

[atttomole]

Toilet breaks from hell, feigning injury, I could probably think of more if I was interested. He even lied on forms to get into Australia. He would kill his granny and you, to get a W…

Novak the biggest cheat in tennis. You come across as being bitter though.

 

[Kieran]

Novak the biggest cheat in tennis.

You come across as an unreliable witness. You could at least tone down your insecurity when you reply, nobody called him the biggest cheat in tennis…

 

[atttomole]

You come across as an unreliable witness. You could at least tone down your insecurity when you reply, nobody called him the biggest cheat in tennis…

I was exaggerating, clearly, but you are a very bitter poster!!

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

I agree with you there, and we saw an example in the Olympics final against Carlos, one of Novaks greatest ever performances. If Novak goes deep at Wimbledon and Carlos is gone, then he’ll do everything - including cheating - to win. Nobody else has the experience at that level to stop him…

The Olympics are another big tournament with a short turnaround and a surface change. Remember, Novak and Carlos played in the Olympics last year (and made the final), Jannik did not.

All of Jannik's great runs at the slams have either come from extended rest over the competition (US Open 2024 and French Open 2025) or an Australian Open (and that comes after a season break). Jannik hasn't had that run at a slam when he hasn't had a clear rest advantage.

Novak and Carlos have been battle tested at Wimbledon and the Olympics (the short turnaround big tournaments). Jannik has not. Just look at the stats since 2018:

Novak (6 Wimbledon finals and 4 Wimbledon titles; 1 Olympic final and Gold Medal)
Carlos (2 Wimbledon finals and titles; 1 Olympic final and Silver Medal)
Jannik (0 Wimbledon finals and titles; 0 Olympic appearances)

Wimbledon and the Olympics are different type of pressure. It's very possible that Jannik handles that pressure well. It's not a guarantee (ask Nadal and Wawrinka, who have won the French Open, but struggled at Wimbledon). He just never had the opportunity to prove it on those stages. Novak and Carlos have, which is why I have them as the Top 2 favorites.

 

[Federberg]

^not sure Sinner has had a rest advantage in Australia. He's just THAT good... I think he'll be a prohibitive favourite on hard courts for years to come

 

[Kieran]

I was exaggerating, clearly, but you are a very bitter poster!!

You don’t know me, even remotely, and yet you know that. That’s incredible…

 

[Kieran]

The Olympics are another big tournament with a short turnaround and a surface change. Remember, Novak and Carlos played in the Olympics last year (and made the final), Jannik did not.

All of Jannik's great runs at the slams have either come from extended rest over the competition (US Open 2024 and French Open 2025) or an Australian Open (and that comes after a season break). Jannik hasn't had that run at a slam when he hasn't had a clear rest advantage.

Novak and Carlos have been battle tested at Wimbledon and the Olympics (the short turnaround big tournaments). Jannik has not. Just look at the stats since 2018:

Novak (6 Wimbledon finals and 4 Wimbledon titles; 1 Olympic final and Gold Medal)
Carlos (2 Wimbledon finals and titles; 1 Olympic final and Silver Medal)
Jannik (0 Wimbledon finals and titles; 0 Olympic appearances)

Wimbledon and the Olympics are different type of pressure. It's very possible that Jannik handles that pressure well. It's not a guarantee (ask Nadal and Wawrinka, who have won the French Open, but struggled at Wimbledon). He just never had the opportunity to prove it on those stages. Novak and Carlos have, which is why I have them as the Top 2 favorites.

Well I need to defend Rafa here, he’s won 2 Wimbledons, reached 3 more finals, making 5 finals in a row (skipped 2009 when he was World number one), and reached 3 semis - that’s not chopped liver. But the turnaround from winning the FO and then Wimbledon is historically difficult, it’s only been achieved about 9 times in the open era, with Borg getting it 3 times and Rafa next, doing it twice. I think if there had been a 3 week gap between them earlier, he might have done it more often, but we seen how wear and tear affected him over the years…

 

[Jelenafan]

^not sure Sinner has had a rest advantage in Australia. He's just THAT good... I think he'll be a prohibitive favourite on hard courts for years to come

Sinner had an insane HC tear last fall, winning 2 Masters, the US Open AND the ATP YE finals and then winning the AO early in the year, and overall he’s won the last 3 HC slams.

Sinner turns 24 in a couple of months, putting on my El Dude statistical hat isn’t that the time period when most players are close to their peak? So yes he deserves to be the prohibitive fave on HC.

Having said that, the only fly in the ointment is that Alcaraz just turned 22, has beaten Sinner 5 straight times ( including twice on HC) and I cannot get his insane 5th set tiebreaker( after nearly 5 1/2 hours) out of my head.

It gives me pause as to whether Sinner’s HC dominance will continue with that other guy around. I’m so looking forward to their future battles.

What is appealing about them is that they are sufficiently different styles & personalities so that it’s. Not a drone versus drone matchup.

 

[Kieran]

Sinner had an insane HC tear last fall, winning 2 Masters, the US Open AND the ATP YE finals and then winning the AO early in the year, and overall he’s won the last 3 HC slams.

Sinner turns 24 in a couple of months, putting on my El Dude statistical hat isn’t that the time period when most players are close to their peak? So yes he deserves to be the prohibitive fave on HC.

Having said that, the only fly in the ointment is that Alcaraz just turned 22, has beaten Sinner 5 straight times ( including twice on HC) and I cannot get his insane 5th set tiebreaker( after nearly 5 1/2 hours) out of my head.

It gives me pause as to whether Sinner’s HC dominance will continue with that other guy around. I’m so looking forward to their future battles.

What is appealing about them is that they are sufficiently different styles & personalities so that it’s. Not a drone versus drone matchup.

I think the USO is going to be interesting. Carlos playing the Olympics was dumb and as usual, when players play that they tend to lose in NYC. I think he’s going to have a mighty tilt at that title this year. I think he’s as good on hards as Sinner, and he’ll prove that, eventually…

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

For what it's worth, here are the Wimbledon results of all slam winners in the last 20 years following their first French Open final:

Nadal (2005) - loss in 2nd round
Federer (2006) - Won title (4th consecutive)
Djokovic (2012) - loss in semifinals
Wawrinka (2015) - loss in quarterfinals
Murray (2016) - Won title
Thiem (2018) - loss in 1st round
Alcaraz (2024) - Won title (2nd consecutive)
Sinner (2025) - ?

In bold are players that previously won Wimbledon prior to their first French Open final. As you can see, players that have previously won Wimbledon prior to their first French Open final fared better during the Wimbledon following their first French Open final.