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What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad
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Biden's biggest threat is because of the cost of living crisis. This is because of the great covid inflation. It's not unique to the US, but I doubt the average voter would tolerate that excuse...
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Revealed: How much £50 really gets you in pubs around Britain
EXCLUSIVE: To gauge how expensive the average trip to a UK pub has become in 2024, MailOnline visited a collection of venues across the country to see how far £50 would go.
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Planned Parenthood... Founded by Eugenicist Margaret Sanger who thought the white working class, and blacks were utter trash.
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Planned Parenthood... Founded by Eugenicist Margaret Sanger who thought the white working class, and blacks were utter trash.
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Wimmins Rights...
Planned Parenthood... Founded by Eugenicist Margaret Sanger who thought the white working class, and blacks were utter trash.
Planned Parenthood: Rooted In Racism - Human Coalition
Rooted in Racism – The Negro Project This blog is part two in an installment...
Yeah, she certainly did a great job for women…
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Like Putin, it appears Netanyahu has been finally cited by the ICC for war crimes in Gaza & is subject to arrest! Israel's about as nutty as The States allowing this man to retain power throughout criminality going on w/ him & his family for yrs.! The world is truly LOST! 
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If there’s a politician I despise more than all the politicians in Ireland put together it’s the vacuous boy prince of Canada, Justin Trudeau. What a nasty, narcissistic, hateful creature he is. A totalitarian at heart, a wealthy absentee when it comes to actually doing things. I’m in a Bob Dylan group on Facebook and I posted a link from the New Yorker to a review of the Bob Dylan biopic that’s out now.
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Trudeau resigns! Good riddance! Canada can become a normal nation again. Maybe we’re past peak woke now
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What a useless evil individual he is. Finally he did a good thing, and I imagine it was very reluctantly. His tyrannical bullying of truckers during Covid will never be forgotten. Any good he's done will be forgotten because there's none. Apart from - as I say - his leaving, which will probably be forgotten too, with a bit of effort..
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lol! I'm actually surprised you listened to him. He's the neocon's neocon geopolitical strategist.
I've been trying to figure out a best case scenario for this unfolding Trump foreign policy disaster. There were always a few things I agreed with, not least a more combative stance on Chinese mercantilism, but also Europe needs to stop freeloading on defence spending. Is it possible that a new German economic model comes out of this, with next generation defence equipment as they rebuild their military? Maybe that's what happens because as things stand the old German model is dead, and it's hard to conceive of what replaces it, other than terminal stagnation. Maybe the stresses that Trump represents force something new?
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Period of Chaos mate. Logic flies out of the window. Old rules no longer apply.
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Bad as Trudeau was - and I’ve seen nothing to say contrary to the fact that he was an empty headed bitch with authoritarian cravings - this careerist Carney will be similar, but less off putting to voters. Nowhere in the western world needs a left wing government now, they’ve all blown it by their lack of care for their people, but he might appeal to people who think he’ll be the “adult in the room..”
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There was an interesting exchange recently on the Joe Rogan Experience between the author Douglas Murray, Joe, and a comedian Dave Smith. Murray was on the ostensibly promote his new book, and Rogan made it a condition of his appearance that Dave Smith should be there for a discussion on the war that Israel is waging against Hamas.
Now, the interesting discussion I’m referring to isn’t the part about the war, but the preamble where Murray called out Rogan for having so many guests with a conspiratorial mindset, so many one-sided anti-Israel guests, pro-Russia guests, and so many guests who are pushing bogus history, pseudo-science, etc.
The discussion got a little out of control and I feel the point Murray was making got lost a little in the wind, but it was a valid point, and it refers to a weakness of people who might tend to be called “right wingers.”
Essentially Murray was saying that Rogan can have whoever the hell he wants on, and people can say whatever the hell they want to say, but it’s bad “social hygiene” - as he called it on his appearance last Friday on Bill Maher - to be constantly muddying the water and platforming people who don’t understand or know their history, as if they’re historians.
Dangerous misinformation is being spread unchallenged, and of course, given the nature of the web, the problem isn’t even Rogan or his guests, the problem is we who watch but don’t follow up and research whether or not what we were told is true.
The discussion got messy because Murray questioned people’s expertise in these things they’re talking about, and so his argument was reduced to him saying “listen only to the experts,” when that wasn’t what he was saying at all. In fairness, he’s generally a more precise communicator than he was on this occasion, but the point he was making got dismissed in favour of what people thought he was saying, which was actually a very good point.
Dave Smith replied that “the expert class let us down” regarding covid, which isn’t strictly true. If we were let down during covid it was by the political rulers who chose only experts that supported their political goals, and excluded other voices. Sweden chose to go this way, Ireland chose to go that way. It wasn’t a failing in the “expert class” of scientists. But this is now an issue that we, as members of the public, have often taken a lazy approach of lumping all “experts” together and deciding that there are other ways of knowing things without all the rigour and expense of committing ourselves to getting PhD’s in a particular subject.
Where this is a real problem is not only in health matters but also in modern political matters, particularly the two most famous wars being waged. And I think it’s a big problem on the ascendant right, where conspiracy theories get smoothed into the conversation when we’re told “there’s more nuance” to certain topics, a phrase I came to suspect during covid, actually.
One of the examples Murray complained about was Daryl Cooper - a podcaster - who is into revisionist history, believing among other things that Churchill was a warmonger who started WW2, Hitler wasn’t really anti-Semitic in the 30’s, and some other David Irving levels of Holocaust denial. This is the far-right, on steroids. And it’s dangerous. And we thought this kind of thinking was dead, but now it’s being welcomed back into the mainstream.
Another platform welcoming such guests is Tucker Carlson. The welcoming of the guests isn’t the problem, according to Murray, but it’s the lack of balance in who becomes a guest. Surely there could be guests who are actual historians to contradict these views?
It’s an interesting argument and it’s still going on, and I hope the effect might in the short term be positive, in that - for instance - Rogan often welcomes Graham Hancock and his hopeless jackass Atlantis theories, but if he also took time to bring on Tom Holland, an excellent historian, for some balance, his audience might have more to think about.
Douglas Murray on the JRE (the discussion in question is at the beginning):
Murray on Bill Maher:
Niall Ferguson on Darryl Cooper:
Now, the interesting discussion I’m referring to isn’t the part about the war, but the preamble where Murray called out Rogan for having so many guests with a conspiratorial mindset, so many one-sided anti-Israel guests, pro-Russia guests, and so many guests who are pushing bogus history, pseudo-science, etc.
The discussion got a little out of control and I feel the point Murray was making got lost a little in the wind, but it was a valid point, and it refers to a weakness of people who might tend to be called “right wingers.”
Essentially Murray was saying that Rogan can have whoever the hell he wants on, and people can say whatever the hell they want to say, but it’s bad “social hygiene” - as he called it on his appearance last Friday on Bill Maher - to be constantly muddying the water and platforming people who don’t understand or know their history, as if they’re historians.
Dangerous misinformation is being spread unchallenged, and of course, given the nature of the web, the problem isn’t even Rogan or his guests, the problem is we who watch but don’t follow up and research whether or not what we were told is true.
The discussion got messy because Murray questioned people’s expertise in these things they’re talking about, and so his argument was reduced to him saying “listen only to the experts,” when that wasn’t what he was saying at all. In fairness, he’s generally a more precise communicator than he was on this occasion, but the point he was making got dismissed in favour of what people thought he was saying, which was actually a very good point.
Dave Smith replied that “the expert class let us down” regarding covid, which isn’t strictly true. If we were let down during covid it was by the political rulers who chose only experts that supported their political goals, and excluded other voices. Sweden chose to go this way, Ireland chose to go that way. It wasn’t a failing in the “expert class” of scientists. But this is now an issue that we, as members of the public, have often taken a lazy approach of lumping all “experts” together and deciding that there are other ways of knowing things without all the rigour and expense of committing ourselves to getting PhD’s in a particular subject.
Where this is a real problem is not only in health matters but also in modern political matters, particularly the two most famous wars being waged. And I think it’s a big problem on the ascendant right, where conspiracy theories get smoothed into the conversation when we’re told “there’s more nuance” to certain topics, a phrase I came to suspect during covid, actually.
One of the examples Murray complained about was Daryl Cooper - a podcaster - who is into revisionist history, believing among other things that Churchill was a warmonger who started WW2, Hitler wasn’t really anti-Semitic in the 30’s, and some other David Irving levels of Holocaust denial. This is the far-right, on steroids. And it’s dangerous. And we thought this kind of thinking was dead, but now it’s being welcomed back into the mainstream.
Another platform welcoming such guests is Tucker Carlson. The welcoming of the guests isn’t the problem, according to Murray, but it’s the lack of balance in who becomes a guest. Surely there could be guests who are actual historians to contradict these views?
It’s an interesting argument and it’s still going on, and I hope the effect might in the short term be positive, in that - for instance - Rogan often welcomes Graham Hancock and his hopeless jackass Atlantis theories, but if he also took time to bring on Tom Holland, an excellent historian, for some balance, his audience might have more to think about.
Douglas Murray on the JRE (the discussion in question is at the beginning):
Murray on Bill Maher:
Niall Ferguson on Darryl Cooper:
