US Politics Thread

[Federberg]

PS: You know what else it is? it's a waste of money. Where's the fiscal responsibility? Did anyone ask DOGE if it was ok? The LAPD is still doing all the work, while the National Guard is sort of guarding federal buildings. And now he's sending in the Marines. What are THEY going to do?

It's an abuse of power, it risks enflaming a situation that simply isn't that bad, and he's wasting money, just like with that military parade he's throwing himself.

but don't you see your outrage is exactly what he wants? Yes you're right. Everyone knows you're right. HE knows you're right. But he's lost poll numbers due to tariffs, and prospects for his fiscal package look grim. He's done this before. For the life of me I don't understand how smart people keep falling for the same trick. Clench your outrage. Please. Don't react. Protesters go home. Ask him about tariffs, ask him about the fiscal bloat and corruption embedded in his bill. DON'T let him get away with it. Why is it so hard to see. He's playing you folks like a puppet

 

[Moxie]

but don't you see your outrage is exactly what he wants? Yes you're right. Everyone knows you're right. HE knows you're right. But he's lost poll numbers due to tariffs, and prospects for his fiscal package look grim. He's done this before. For the life of me I don't understand how smart people keep falling for the same trick. Clench your outrage. Please. Don't react. Protesters go home. Ask him about tariffs, ask him about the fiscal bloat and corruption embedded in his bill. DON'T let him get away with it. Why is it so hard to see. He's playing you folks like a puppet

But I'm saying we can think about more than one thing at a time. We're getting used to it with Trump. The protests in LA are about immigration, which is hugely important to that city, particularly. That one IS full of outrage and emotion. The ones this weekend, and in the recent past are about general disapproval of Trump and his policies, including immigration, but also economic ones, and others. These have all been peaceful, and are not limited to Democrats, you should note. Just because you don't think this is the path, don't give me that face palm. Politicians and lawyers and courts have their place, but public protest is one of the main ways for the general public to make their disapproval heard. And a way to "ask him" about the above, as you say. How am I otherwise supposed to "ask him?" Send him an email? Reply on Truth Social?

 

[Federberg]

But I'm saying we can think about more than one thing at a time. We're getting used to it with Trump. The protests in LA are about immigration, which is hugely important to that city, particularly. That one IS full of outrage and emotion. The ones this weekend, and in the recent past are about general disapproval of Trump and his policies, including immigration, but also economic ones, and others. These have all been peaceful, and are not limited to Democrats, you should note. Just because you don't think this is the path, don't give me that face palm. Politicians and lawyers and courts have their place, but public protest is one of the main ways for the general public to make their disapproval heard. And a way to "ask him" about the above, as you say. How am I otherwise supposed to "ask him?" Send him an email? Reply on Truth Social?

I hear you, but the battle is being waged in different places by the two sides. Trump's sole objective is to get his failures off the front page. This isn't about about what the opposition thinks. This is about winning the news cycle. Getting voters to forget about tariffs and the fiscal bill. I don't doubt the ability of the opposition to multi-task. But the problem is that he might be your opponent, but to him you (protesters etc) are just his tool for him to achieve his objective. Fight what he's doing with the National Guard in the courts. Don't let him win the news cycle. He's a natural born SEO killer. I have to respect the game

 

[Moxie]

I hear you, but the battle is being waged in different places by the two sides. Trump's sole objective is to get his failures off the front page. This isn't about about what the opposition thinks. This is about winning the news cycle. Getting voters to forget about tariffs and the fiscal bill. I don't doubt the ability of the opposition to multi-task. But the problem is that he might be your opponent, but to him you (protesters etc) are just his tool for him to achieve his objective. Fight what he's doing with the National Guard in the courts. Don't let him win the news cycle. He's a natural born SEO killer. I have to respect the game

I respect what you're saying, but there's nothing I can do that will make him stop whatever chaos-making he will do to deflect attention from his actual failures and disasters. We are becoming more practiced at keeping the attention where it should be. At the same time, there are battles on more than a few fronts...he's made sure of that. The question is not whether I can resist every shiny object, but if the media can.

 

[Federberg]

^Yup. It’s the responsibility of the Dems to force the media cycle back to tariff’s and the Bill. Ironically Trump is so thin skinned it would be easy to bait him. It’s actually the most effective way to pull him away from his California stunt