The Rankings Thread (ATP)

[mrzz]

I didn't compare him to Gaudio, but to Berdych, Tsonga, and Ferrer. I don't think he was a better player than those three -- that he belongs more in that category than, say, Medvedev. Cilic won a bunch of titles, but most were ATP 250s.

Hmmm... I'm with @PhiEaglesfan712 in this one. Not because of the numbers, but because of the level he eventually reached. Cilic didn't inherited a Major, he won one fair and square playing great tennis. He got to two other major finals again playing great tennis. I agree those were just a few moments in a long career, but all those other guys simply didn't have them.

 

[El Dude]

Hmmm... I'm with @PhiEaglesfan712 in this one. Not because of the numbers, but because of the level he eventually reached. Cilic didn't inherited a Major, he won one fair and square playing great tennis. He got to two other major finals again playing great tennis. I agree those were just a few moments in a long career, but all those other guys simply didn't have them.

Yes, I hear that. I'm not taking away his Slam title nor am I making an overall career assessment. But I'm talking about something specific: Whether or not a player disappoints from their perceived potential. Before 2014, no one would have been surprised or disappointed if Cilic never won a Slam. If you look at his career up to that point, it didn't scream "future Slam winner." He was actually perceived somewhat lower than Berdych/Tsonga/Ferrer.

 

[mrzz]

Yes, I hear that. I'm not taking away his Slam title nor am I making an overall career assessment. But I'm talking about something specific: Whether or not a player disappoints from their perceived potential. Before 2014, no one would have been surprised or disappointed if Cilic never won a Slam. If you look at his career up to that point, it didn't scream "future Slam winner." He was actually perceived somewhat lower than Berdych/Tsonga/Ferrer.

At that point, yes, definitely.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

New ATP Top Ten Monday 21st April,

1. Sinner 9,930
2. Zverev 8,085 (+1)
3. Alcaraz 8,050 (-1)
4. Fritz 5,115
6. Draper 3,820
7. de Minaur 3,585
8. Rublev 3,530
9. Rune 3,480 (+4)
10. Medvedev 3,290 (-1)

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

ATP Race Top 8 ( before Madrid) Monday April 21st,

1. Alcaraz 2,740
2. Zverev 2,175
3. Sinner 2,000
4. Draper 1,640
5. de Minaur 1,585
6. Djokovic 1,520
7. Rune 1,470
8. Shelton 1,450

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

New Career Highs on ATP Top 100, Monday 21st April,
52. Halys
59. Carabelli
61. Medjedovic
68. Fearnley
78. Diallo
81. Collignon
93. De Jong

 

[El Dude]

Fritz is 17 and Medvedev 20 in the Race - both have had pretty bad starts to the year, at least relative to last year (for Fritz) and the last 5+ years for Medvedev.