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I don't agree with everything this guy says, but I think he's nailed this. Maybe I would give Truss a little bit of grace because she was sabotaged by the Bank of England. It's ironic that most would think of her as the most incompetent of the lot (Cameron, Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Starmer, Burnham)..

But perhaps if we dig deeper, the real culprit is Blair. He fundamentally changed the structure of British government, ceding power to the Civil Service. It's rather ironic that the undemocratic nature of the EU was perceived as a threat to British democracy and independence, when in reality the British Civil Service was a far more specific and more serious problem. I don't think any British government is going to look competent again until they resolve that issue. What the Bank of England did, dumping gilts and creating a pound sterling crisis was impeachable. Whoever the officials were who sanctioned that should have been brought in to face Parliament and been removed from their jobs with cause.

 

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I don't agree with everything this guy says, but I think he's nailed this. Maybe I would give Truss a little bit of grace because she was sabotaged by the Bank of England. It's ironic that most would think of her as the most incompetent of the lot (Cameron, Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Starmer, Burnham)..

But perhaps if we dig deeper, the real culprit is Blair. He fundamentally changed the structure of British government, ceding power to the Civil Service. It's rather ironic that the undemocratic nature of the EU was perceived as a threat to British democracy and independence, when in reality the British Civil Service was a far more specific and more serious problem. I don't think any British government is going to look competent again until they resolve that issue. What the Bank of England did, dumping gilts and creating a pound sterling crisis was impeachable. Whoever the officials were who sanctioned that should have been brought in to face Parliament and been removed from their jobs with cause.


Blair didn't really cede power to the Civil Service mate - at least not his own power. He put in his own structure and base to ensure the wider long term plans he subscribed to were maintained long after he had left office.
 

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Blair didn't really cede power to the Civil Service mate - at least not his own power. He put in his own structure and base to ensure the wider long term plans he subscribed to were maintained long after he had left office.
he did mate. Bank of England is the most obvious an example of it. But the quango-fication of the government was done at that time. Don't get me wrong, Cameron could have reversed it, but he lacked imagination and conviction. David Davies would have known what to do
 
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he did mate. Bank of England is the most obvious an example of it. But the quango-fication of the government was done at that time. Don't get me wrong, Cameron could have reversed it, but he lacked imagination and conviction. David Davies would have known what to do
What I mean is that he didn't cede power. He transferred it so that the democratic process would have difficulty getting in the way of a longer term plan once he was out of office. So you could interpret it like you are - in that he gave functional democratic power away - yes - but what he effectively did was hold on to it by doing so.
 
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