Nadal back to number one how long do you think it will last

[MartyB]

^I actually think they probably care equally. Rafa wanted year end no 1 last year. Roger wanted to be the oldest no 1. I think they're both opportunistic but neither will die in a ditch for it. I think it's all about the slams for both. Rafa knows he ain't catching Roger's weeks at no 1, frankly he's not even catching Novak

it really is about the slams but being # 1 not off the radar for either of them...clearly.

 

[herios]

My guess is Nadal will lose the top ranking sometimes in the next month or so. Reason is I think he will not defend all 3 of MC, Barca and Madrid.

 

[Front242]

My guess is Nadal will lose the top ram sometimes in the next month or so. Reason is I think he will not defend all 3 of MC, Barca and Madrid.

They play for sheep now instead of points and prizes? Sweet!

 

[Carol]

My guess is Nadal will lose the top ranking sometimes in the next month or so. Reason is I think he will not defend all 3 of MC, Barca and Madrid.

Barca is the soccer team and not the tennis Tournament
Of course Rafa has a tough way because has to defense a bunch of points and he has not played since the AO, anyway I wouldn't mind if he would skip one of those tournaments, playing RG more rested and of course the grass season which is so close and he always arrives too tired after to reach most of the finals on clay

 

[herios]

Barca is the soccer team and not the tennis Tournament

Ok thanks. I thought Barca is also an
abbreviation for the city's name

 

[Moxie]

Ok thanks. I thought Barca is also an
abbreviation for the city's name

It isn't. Carol's right. No one refers to the city that way. But understandable error.

Rafa coming back again to #1 is a pretty big achievement. Folks talk a lot about how he hasn't spent as many weeks at #1 as Roger or Novak, in this era. But it is worth remembering that Rafa had to win 5 Slams before getting to #1, at 22. Roger was also 22 when he got to #1, after he won his first Major. Back when they were handing them out as a door prize with your first Major. (And for a lot of players, their only one.) Of course it was because Roger was such a formidable #1, but he was 5 years older, and, at that point in their age difference and maturity, across surfaces, it made a big difference.

 

[Andy22]

As long nadal passes john McEnroe, weeks at number one, I will be happy, just weeks to go.

 

[monfed]

The problem is Wafa can actually gain points at Rome, how crazy is that? So basically he will have to lose at Madrid to lose the #1 ranking and not make up the deficit at Rome.

 

[Moxie]

The problem is Wafa can actually gain points at Rome, how crazy is that? So basically he will have to lose at Madrid to lose the #1 ranking and not make up the deficit at Rome.

Don't worry so much about the #1. Rafa and Roger are only 100 points apart, and everyone else is some 3400+ points behind. They are going to trade #1 back and forth for awhile. The ranking doesn't matter for RG, since Roger isn't playing, and it doesn't matter much for Wimbledon, since they'll be 1 and 2 whatever happens.

 

[monfed]

YE#1 is looking like a done deal for Wafa unfortunately.

 

[monfed]

Don't worry so much about the #1. Rafa and Roger are only 100 points apart, and everyone else is some 3400+ points behind. They are going to trade #1 back and forth for awhile. The ranking doesn't matter for RG, since Roger isn't playing, and it doesn't matter much for Wimbledon, since they'll be 1 and 2 whatever happens.

I'm not worried about #1 ranking as such but I'm fed up of watching Wafa sleepwalking to 5000 points in the clay season while Fed has to fight tooth and nail on the HCs to even get 1000 points and no grass MS to make up the deficit. At this rate, Wafa will have sealed yet another undeserved YE#1 by simply harvesting points on clay.

 

[Moxie]

I'm not worried about #1 ranking as such but I'm fed up of watching Wafa sleepwalking to 5000 points in the clay season while Fed has to fight tooth and nail on the HCs to even get 1000 points and no grass MS to make up the deficit. At this rate, Wafa will have sealed yet another undeserved YE#1 by simply harvesting points on clay.

Were you sucking your thumb while you typed that? It's a pretty whiny and partisan view of the tennis calendar, of Rafa and Roger, and the relative effort that it takes to win tournaments.

 

[monfed]

Were you sucking your thumb while you typed that? It's a pretty whiny and partisan view of the tennis calendar, of Rafa and Roger, and the relative effort that it takes to win tournaments.

5500 points on clay vs 2500 on grass is not a view, it's a fact.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

5500 points on clay vs 2500 on grass is not a view, it's a fact.

That has always seemed unfair to me.
Halle and Queens should both be Masters 1000

Also the lesser amount of time a grass courter gets to transition from clay to grass.

 

[Moxie]

That has always seemed unfair to me.
Halle and Queens should both be Masters 1000

Also the lesser amount of time a grass courter gets to transition from clay to grass.

They couldn't both be, as they're the same week. A grass MS1000 is often discussed, but apparently the facilities are not adequate to the ATP standards for a 1000 (has to do with number of practice courts, playing courts, something about locker room facilities, etc. I think there is one grass tournament that does meet the requirements...someone here mentioned it last year, IIRC.) As to the time between RG and W, it did move back a week, but making any more space in the calendar would require pushing those 2 majors farther apart, and apparently the Brits are loathe to monkey anymore with Wimbledon.

 

[Moxie]

5500 points on clay vs 2500 on grass is not a view, it's a fact.

Shame that Fed is no good on HCs, then, because there are 6 MS1000s on them, and 2 Majors. It's not really a grass v. clay thing, right? 77-78% of the calendar is HC/grass, with about 33% clay.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

They couldn't both be, as they're the same week. A grass MS1000 is often discussed, but apparently the facilities are not adequate to the ATP standards for a 1000 (has to do with number of practice courts, playing courts, something about locker room facilities, etc. I think there is one grass tournament that does meet the requirements...someone here mentioned it last year, IIRC.) As to the time between RG and W, it did move back a week, but making any more space in the calendar would require pushing those 2 majors farther apart, and apparently the Brits are loathe to monkey anymore with Wimbledon.

I know they are but if any grass tournament deserve to be masters 1000,it's those two.
I think Queens has some capacity issue though.
It's just weird that on a surface where there were three slams,now it has just some maximum 3000 points available on the surface(250,500,250,2000) in the current calendar.

 

[monfed]

Shame that Fed is no good on HCs, then, because there are 6 MS1000s on them, and 2 Majors. It's not really a grass v. clay thing, right? 77-78% of the calendar is HC/grass, with about 33% clay.

The competition on HC is a level playing field than on speciality surfaces specially clay, atleast on grass there can be upsets.

Fed was the best HCer last year and he still finished YE#2 because Nadal can harvest 5000 odd points on clay and be lazy the rest of the year and still end up YE#1. Ok he vultured USO 17 with a joke draw but that aside I don't think you'll find anyone who'll argue that Wafa was better on HC than Fed last year.

 

[Moxie]

I know they are but if any grass tournament deserve to be masters 1000,it's those two.
I think Queens has some capacity issue though.
It's just weird that on a surface where there were three slams,now it has just some maximum 3000 points available on the surface(250,500,250,2000) in the current calendar.

I don't think there's a tennis fan in the world that doesn't regret the loss of so many grass tournaments. And everyone would like to see a 1000 on it. I agree about Queens and Halle. I think you're right that Queens can't do anything about the upgrade. It's a very old, classic club, and they don't have the space to expand. Not sure about Halle, but why doesn't the ATP help them with money to expand? Or put grass courts in Hamburg...they used to have a 1000. They could make it a non-mandatory like MC, and they wouldn't even have to drop anything. Everyone has suggestions, but the ATP doesn't change anything.

 

[Moxie]

The competition on HC is a level playing field than on speciality surfaces specially clay, atleast on grass there can be upsets.

Fed was the best HCer last year and he still finished YE#2 because Nadal can harvest 5000 odd points on clay and be lazy the rest of the year and still end up YE#1. Ok he vultured USO 17 with a joke draw but that aside I don't think you'll find anyone who'll argue that Wafa was better on HC than Fed last year.

You're crying not because the tennis calendar is unfair, but because Nadal is so good on clay. And the rest of that drivel is equally fannish. Rafa isn't "lazy the rest of the year." And his draw at USO wasn't a joke...the whole tournament was ravished by top players being injured. You're just mad because it was a "gimme" last year, and Roger wasn't the one to take advantage.