Why am I the only one who feels Rafa needs a new coach

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Hey TF,

I just reached my 5000 post on this board:celeb:

I have really enjoyed the competitive banter with all of you. I got a question, why am I the only person who feels that a coaching change even if it is a tennis consultant could change the tide for Nadal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2669555-breaking-down-rafael-nadals-only-hopes-for-a-2017-renaissance



My choice would be McEnroe and its a coincidence that John really has been campaigning hard for to be added to the team.

http://en.yibada.com/articles/136795/20160630/rafael-nadal-great-needs-new-coach-john-mcenroe.htm

I would be very interested to hear why I am such a lone wolf on this campaign. If Rafa doesn't make some adjustments very quickly his window for capturing grand slam titles will be close if it hadn't been closed already. I am not looking for Pro Rafa recommendations but just honestly what can help this player even if he isn't type of champion.
 

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I am with you, even though I am not a Rafa fan.

However, if Rafa fires Tony and hires a new coach he will not do well. This is because it will cause so much ill will and psychological trauma to Rafa that he won't be able to concentrate (not because Tony is technically needed anymore). I think best option for Rafa is to retain Uncle Toni as the figure head coach and hire a person as a consultant (but this guy should be the real coach, only thing is that he should not be publicly acknowledged). In view of this delicate situation, big names such as Becker (heard he may depart from Nole), Connors, JMac or any former multiple GS winners would not be suitable for the job (as they would not be agreeable to being the real coach and not being recognized as such).

There was a dude who beefed up Rafa's serve for USO in 2010 (I have posted a video of the technical details of his suggestions in this forum somewhere; if you search hard you will find it).
Unfortunately, they had a dispute and this guy claims Rafa's team did not pay him properly and so
he won't come back again.

Anyway, such low profile and people with good tennis acumen would be good for Rafa (how about brad gilbert or dareen cahill?).

p.s. It is amazing how many posts one can rack up while wasting precious time. :snicker
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
I am with you, even though I am not a Rafa fan.

However, if Rafa fires Tony and hires a new coach he will not do well. This is because it will cause so much ill will and psychological trauma to Rafa that he won't be able to concentrate (not because Tony is technically needed anymore). I think best option for Rafa is to retain Uncle Toni as the figure head coach and hire a person as a consultant (but this guy should be the real coach, only thing is that he should not be publicly acknowledged). In view of this delicate situation, big names such as Becker (heard he may depart from Nole), Connors, JMac or any former multiple GS winners would not be suitable for the job (as they would not be agreeable to being the real coach and not being recognized as such).

There was a dude who beefed up Rafa's serve for USO in 2010 (I have posted a video of the technical details of his suggestions in this forum somewhere; if you search hard you will find it).
Unfortunately, they had a dispute and this guy claims Rafa's team did not pay him properly and so
he won't come back again.

Anyway, such low profile and people with good tennis acumen would be good for Rafa (how about brad gilbert or dareen cahill?).

p.s. It is amazing how many posts one can rack up while wasting precious time. :snicker
Good Post GSM..

As we all can agree he isn't gonna fire his Uncle Toni but what's wrong with adding another voice to their staff like a consultant such as Cahill or McEnroe? Murray and Djoker both have multiple coaches .. I know Rafa have two but no real big name that has been a true accomplished pro.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
GameSetAndMath said:
I am with you, even though I am not a Rafa fan.

However, if Rafa fires Tony and hires a new coach he will not do well. This is because it will cause so much ill will and psychological trauma to Rafa that he won't be able to concentrate (not because Tony is technically needed anymore). I think best option for Rafa is to retain Uncle Toni as the figure head coach and hire a person as a consultant (but this guy should be the real coach, only thing is that he should not be publicly acknowledged). In view of this delicate situation, big names such as Becker (heard he may depart from Nole), Connors, JMac or any former multiple GS winners would not be suitable for the job (as they would not be agreeable to being the real coach and not being recognized as such).

There was a dude who beefed up Rafa's serve for USO in 2010 (I have posted a video of the technical details of his suggestions in this forum somewhere; if you search hard you will find it).
Unfortunately, they had a dispute and this guy claims Rafa's team did not pay him properly and so
he won't come back again.

Anyway, such low profile and people with good tennis acumen would be good for Rafa (how about brad gilbert or dareen cahill?).

p.s. It is amazing how many posts one can rack up while wasting precious time. :snicker
Good Post GSM..

As we all can agree he isn't gonna fire his Uncle Toni but what's wrong with adding another voice to their staff like a consultant such as Cahill or McEnroe? Murray and Djoker both have multiple coaches .. I know Rafa have two but no real big name that has been a true accomplished pro.

I could be mistaken, but in more ways than one, the coach probably needs to be Spanish! Nadal appears to be as dumb as a bag of hair and isn't necessarily that trusting of outsiders or he would have expanded his horizons a lot more and sooner! After 30, playing that kiddy charm looks ridiculous! He's just clueless; why doesn't he just let everyone know? :angel: :dodgy: :p :rolleyes:
 

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I'd never let McEnroe near the team, unless it's for fetching balls, and even then, only with tape across his mouth. I like the idea of a specialist coming in to dicky with the serve, or to add some thoughts on movement, or forehand, etc, but Rafa has an excellent team, and the greatest of coaches. An additional voice - maybe - but not a new full-time coach for him, because I've seen desperate veterans try this before - Sampras - and after trying out two new voices (Higueras and Gullikson) he wisely returned to Annacone, and a final GS triumph...
 

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Kieran said:
I'd never let McEnroe near the team, unless it's for fetching balls, and even then, only with tape across his mouth. I like the idea of a specialist coming in to dicky with the serve, or to add some thoughts on movement, or forehand, etc, but Rafa has an excellent team, and the greatest of coaches. An additional voice - maybe - but not a new full-time coach for him, because I've seen desperate veterans try this before - Sampras - and after trying out two new voices (Higueras and Gullikson) he wisely returned to Annacone, and a final GS triumph...

Pete's situation was different from Rafa's dilemma. Rafa has an all court base liners game whereas Pete had two hammers, his 1st and 2nd serves which if he was able to hit for two weeks consistently would most likely have him around for the final weekend of a grand slam. Rafa game would better be compared to Agassi, Murray and Djokovic but really more like Andre. Andre had to work for every point was able to occasionally get a few easy points off his serve but really his superior return of Serve which is currently rival only by Murray and Djoker. This is why Rafa needs a lot of extra tennis consultants to fix his serve just as he did in 2010 before he was unceremoniously dump by Toni's dumbass ego. In 2013 Rafa finally listened to some of Us who suggested he needed to make the adjustment for power with his serving grip. Afterwards he had the greatest accomplishments and success on the American hard courts he opted for less pace over higher percentage which was a huge mistake because the tour had begun applying the Rafa rules( I am tired of repeatedly mentioning the current strategy to keep Nadal from controlling the rallies). The lost of confidence and. Rafa Foolishmess admittion of his nerves has destroyed any mental edge he had vs anyone on the tour.

McEnroe didn't cause harm to Milos, plus Rafa does like John.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
I'd never let McEnroe near the team, unless it's for fetching balls, and even then, only with tape across his mouth. I like the idea of a specialist coming in to dicky with the serve, or to add some thoughts on movement, or forehand, etc, but Rafa has an excellent team, and the greatest of coaches. An additional voice - maybe - but not a new full-time coach for him, because I've seen desperate veterans try this before - Sampras - and after trying out two new voices (Higueras and Gullikson) he wisely returned to Annacone, and a final GS triumph...

Pete's situation was different from Rafa's dilemma. Rafa has an all court base liners game whereas Pete had two hammers, his 1st and 2nd serves which if he was able to hit for two weeks consistently would most likely have him around for the final weekend of a grand slam. Rafa game would better be compared to Agassi, Murray and Djokovic but really more like Andre. Andre had to work for every point was able to occasionally get a few easy points off his serve but really his superior return of Serve which is currently rival only by Murray and Djoker. This is why Rafa needs a lot of extra tennis consultants to fix his serve just as he did in 2010 before he was unceremoniously dump by Toni's dumbass ego. In 2013 Rafa finally listened to some of Us who suggested he needed to make the adjustment for power with his serving grip. Afterwards he had the greatest accomplishments and success on the American hard courts he opted for less pace over higher percentage which was a huge mistake because the tour had begun applying the Rafa rules( I am tired of repeatedly mentioning the current strategy to keep Nadal from controlling the rallies). The lost of confidence and. Rafa Foolishmess admittion of his nerves has destroyed any mental edge he had vs anyone on the tour.

McEnroe didn't cause harm to Milos, plus Rafa does like John.

Everybody likes John, Mac is a tennis man, but he's not that tennis man. He's a yapper, he's all over the place when he talks, easily distracted, good humoured, loves to be part of the show. Not the kind of man Rafa needs. Plus, he can manufacture a serve elsewhere. As you say, the 2013 serve was a great one. It's down to him to commit to it. But uncle T? One of the greatest coaches in history. And he's blood. It would be a mistake if he left the team...
 

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Honest question: How much does Rafa still want it? I wonder whether he's just coasting to collect pay and endor$ements, and maybe for a shot at some clay titles, but isn't as invested in winning more Slams. He's solidified his place as an all-time great, must know that he's almost certainly not going to win four more to pass Roger at this point, and probably just doesn't care as much as he used to a few years ago. My sense is that he would really like another RG and will go for that, but at some point he'll say, "Me rather be fishing."

The greats all have the drive to be great in common. Once you get to the top, accomplish whatever goals you set out to accomplish, it must be harder and harder to maintain that edge. I think this sometimes centers around a specific goal. For Rafa in 2013 it was reclaiming the #1 and best in the biz crown from Novak. Novak finally got that elusive French Open title and it seems like a balloon deflated. Maybe he'll find that drive again. Maybe he thinks, "Yeah, but I really want 15 Slams to pass Rafa." Maybe he gets there and deflates again, but then thinks "I really want 18 to pass Roger." Roger really wanted that #1 and 17th Slam in 2012. He seemed to really want #18, but couldn't get past Novak at his best.

My point being, drive is what keeps the great great beyond their normal years. Once that starts to go it has impact on all aspect of a player's game...the player doesn't train as hard, doesn't work to keep on improving. I honestly don't know if this is the case with Rafa (or Novak), but I wonder...
 

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Kieran said:
the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
I'd never let McEnroe near the team, unless it's for fetching balls, and even then, only with tape across his mouth. I like the idea of a specialist coming in to dicky with the serve, or to add some thoughts on movement, or forehand, etc, but Rafa has an excellent team, and the greatest of coaches. An additional voice - maybe - but not a new full-time coach for him, because I've seen desperate veterans try this before - Sampras - and after trying out two new voices (Higueras and Gullikson) he wisely returned to Annacone, and a final GS triumph...

Pete's situation was different from Rafa's dilemma. Rafa has an all court base liners game whereas Pete had two hammers, his 1st and 2nd serves which if he was able to hit for two weeks consistently would most likely have him around for the final weekend of a grand slam. Rafa game would better be compared to Agassi, Murray and Djokovic but really more like Andre. Andre had to work for every point was able to occasionally get a few easy points off his serve but really his superior return of Serve which is currently rival only by Murray and Djoker. This is why Rafa needs a lot of extra tennis consultants to fix his serve just as he did in 2010 before he was unceremoniously dump by Toni's dumbass ego. In 2013 Rafa finally listened to some of Us who suggested he needed to make the adjustment for power with his serving grip. Afterwards he had the greatest accomplishments and success on the American hard courts he opted for less pace over higher percentage which was a huge mistake because the tour had begun applying the Rafa rules( I am tired of repeatedly mentioning the current strategy to keep Nadal from controlling the rallies). The lost of confidence and. Rafa Foolishmess admittion of his nerves has destroyed any mental edge he had vs anyone on the tour.

McEnroe didn't cause harm to Milos, plus Rafa does like John.

Everybody likes John, Mac is a tennis man, but he's not that tennis man. He's a yapper, he's all over the place when he talks, easily distracted, good humoured, loves to be part of the show. Not the kind of man Rafa needs. Plus, he can manufacture a serve elsewhere. As you say, the 2013 serve was a great one. It's down to him to commit to it. But uncle T? One of the greatest coaches in history. And he's blood. It would be a mistake if he left the team...

Kieran, read my last 100 or more posts about this subject, I Never said Toni should be abolished from the team but just add a real accomplished pro to the team at this point in Rafa's career. Feel me now Brotha
 

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Haha, I feel you, brother, but Rafa has the most accomplished pro in the game looking after him right now! :p
 

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El Dude said:
Honest question: How much does Rafa still want it? I wonder whether he's just coasting to collect pay and endor$ements, and maybe for a shot at some clay titles, but isn't as invested in winning more Slams. He's solidified his place as an all-time great, must know that he's almost certainly not going to win four more to pass Roger at this point, and probably just doesn't care as much as he used to a few years ago. My sense is that he would really like another RG and will go for that, but at some point he'll say, "Me rather be fishing."

The greats all have the drive to be great in common. Once you get to the top, accomplish whatever goals you set out to accomplish, it must be harder and harder to maintain that edge. I think this sometimes centers around a specific goal. For Rafa in 2013 it was reclaiming the #1 and best in the biz crown from Novak. Novak finally got that elusive French Open title and it seems like a balloon deflated. Maybe he'll find that drive again. Maybe he thinks, "Yeah, but I really want 15 Slams to pass Rafa." Maybe he gets there and deflates again, but then thinks "I really want 18 to pass Roger." Roger really wanted that #1 and 17th Slam in 2012. He seemed to really want #18, but couldn't get past Novak at his best.

My point being, drive is what keeps the great great beyond their normal years. Once that starts to go it has impact on all aspect of a player's game...the player doesn't train as hard, doesn't work to keep on improving. I honestly don't know if this is the case with Rafa (or Novak), but I wonder...
El Dude, it's just like when you were in high school or college or etc..you saw this extremely hot chick, you wanted to ask her out but may not know what would be the right approach. This is where Rafa is, he wants it because why would he be an idiot to keep torturing his body on the courts, however I don't think Rafa knows how to capture the remaining 4 grand slams titles especially #15. This is the time while Novak's has his Bollywood related issues. Rafa knows how to defeat the rest if he ever regains his "tennis mojo", IMO.
 

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Kieran said:
Haha, I feel you, brother, but Rafa has the most accomplished pro in the game looking after him right now! :p

Sometimes I think you may be AkA Uncle Toni . :snicker
 

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Uncle Toni says in his last interview:"I know exactly what is happening to Rafa, when he finish with his problems he will be back without any doubt at his best level"
 

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Carol35 said:
Uncle Toni says in his last interview:"I know exactly what is happening to Rafa, when he finish with his problems he will be back without any doubt at his best level"

Its been over 2 years:nono... I seriously doubt Toni has a clue. Toni is full of yesterday's lunch
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Carol35 said:
Uncle Toni says in his last interview:"I know exactly what is happening to Rafa, when he finish with his problems he will be back without any doubt at his best level"

Its been over 2 years:nono... I seriously doubt Toni has a clue. Toni is full of yesterday's lunch

That's a bit silly, brother. I'm sure, in fact, that he has a clue. But look at the last two years: wrist injury kept him out of the USO, then the appendix upended his year and so he basically wrote off 2014, which began with a back problem in Australia, which affected him too.

2015 he was physically fine but showed signs that his retreats through injury had broken his morale somewhat, his form was terrible and he became a plaything for FFF, FFS. He was awful, but we saw some incline. We all spoke about it. This year, he showed again that he's lost a bit of bottle, and he's also physically diminished, as all veterans inevitably are, and he flopped in Oz. After this? He looked good on clay, gave Djoker a huge terrific match in Rome, but then his other wrist went, and he dropped out of RG, and skipped Wimbledon. I'm sorry, but while the last few seasons have been terrible results wise, we can see a natural trend, where the body is slowing, breaking down, and mentally he's not as tough, maybe as a consequence.

This is the undeniable sequence, and no amount of senseless and ceaseless patter from John McEnroe on the practice court could change that. Uncle T will know what to do, and he doesn't know, then nobody knows...
 

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Kieran said:
the AntiPusher said:
Carol35 said:
Uncle Toni says in his last interview:"I know exactly what is happening to Rafa, when he finish with his problems he will be back without any doubt at his best level"

Its been over 2 years:nono... I seriously doubt Toni has a clue. Toni is full of yesterday's lunch

That's a bit silly, brother. I'm sure, in fact, that he has a clue. But look at the last two years: wrist injury kept him out of the USO, then the appendix upended his year and so he basically wrote off 2014, which began with a back problem in Australia, which affected him too.

2015 he was physically fine but showed signs that his retreats through injury had broken his morale somewhat, his form was terrible and he became a plaything for FFF, FFS. He was awful, but we saw some incline. We all spoke about it. This year, he showed again that he's lost a bit of bottle, and he's also physically diminished, as all veterans inevitably are, and he flopped in Oz. After this? He looked good on clay, gave Djoker a huge terrific match in Rome, but then his other wrist went, and he dropped out of RG, and skipped Wimbledon. I'm sorry, but while the last few seasons have been terrible results wise, we can see a natural trend, where the body is slowing, breaking down, and mentally he's not as tough, maybe as a consequence.

This is the undeniable sequence, and no amount of senseless and ceaseless patter from John McEnroe on the practice court could change that. Uncle T will know what to do, and he doesn't know, then nobody knows...

Not really silly when you look at the context of the phase "Doesn't have a clue" because Rafa style of play as currently architected cant get him to the qtrs of a any major or to defeat the lower ranked players with any consistency. Other players(JMDP, Fed, Djoker, Monfils, JoWillieTs, Murray) return from injuries or a layoff and resume their legendary status of defeating the lower ranked player but not Nadal.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
the AntiPusher said:
Its been over 2 years:nono... I seriously doubt Toni has a clue. Toni is full of yesterday's lunch

That's a bit silly, brother. I'm sure, in fact, that he has a clue. But look at the last two years: wrist injury kept him out of the USO, then the appendix upended his year and so he basically wrote off 2014, which began with a back problem in Australia, which affected him too.

2015 he was physically fine but showed signs that his retreats through injury had broken his morale somewhat, his form was terrible and he became a plaything for FFF, FFS. He was awful, but we saw some incline. We all spoke about it. This year, he showed again that he's lost a bit of bottle, and he's also physically diminished, as all veterans inevitably are, and he flopped in Oz. After this? He looked good on clay, gave Djoker a huge terrific match in Rome, but then his other wrist went, and he dropped out of RG, and skipped Wimbledon. I'm sorry, but while the last few seasons have been terrible results wise, we can see a natural trend, where the body is slowing, breaking down, and mentally he's not as tough, maybe as a consequence.

This is the undeniable sequence, and no amount of senseless and ceaseless patter from John McEnroe on the practice court could change that. Uncle T will know what to do, and he doesn't know, then nobody knows...

Not really silly when you look at the context of the phase "Doesn't have a clue" because Rafa style of play as currently architected cant get him to the qtrs of a any major or to defeat the lower ranked players with any consistency. Other players(JMDP, Fed, Djoker, Monfils, JoWillieTs, Murray) return from injuries or a layoff and resume their legendary status of defeating the lower ranked player but not Nadal.

I think you are both right. The inability to gain longterm momentum due to injuries etc has been the single biggest problem. That being said, getting momentum is easier said than done, and the question is could somebody new (with Toni staying on of course) give Rafa an artificial jump start that he couldn't get with just Toni? I think Rafa tends to take a while to get his mental and physical form back, and he simply does not have that luxury anymore. If he is going to have this many niggling injuries, he can't afford a six month to a year comeback anymore, otherwise he will probably get another small injury again.

I think the chances for Rafa are slimmer and slimmer, and I don't think the business is usual will change this. I would say his best shot to turn it around, is bringing in somebody new.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
the AntiPusher said:
Its been over 2 years:nono... I seriously doubt Toni has a clue. Toni is full of yesterday's lunch

That's a bit silly, brother. I'm sure, in fact, that he has a clue. But look at the last two years: wrist injury kept him out of the USO, then the appendix upended his year and so he basically wrote off 2014, which began with a back problem in Australia, which affected him too.

2015 he was physically fine but showed signs that his retreats through injury had broken his morale somewhat, his form was terrible and he became a plaything for FFF, FFS. He was awful, but we saw some incline. We all spoke about it. This year, he showed again that he's lost a bit of bottle, and he's also physically diminished, as all veterans inevitably are, and he flopped in Oz. After this? He looked good on clay, gave Djoker a huge terrific match in Rome, but then his other wrist went, and he dropped out of RG, and skipped Wimbledon. I'm sorry, but while the last few seasons have been terrible results wise, we can see a natural trend, where the body is slowing, breaking down, and mentally he's not as tough, maybe as a consequence.

This is the undeniable sequence, and no amount of senseless and ceaseless patter from John McEnroe on the practice court could change that. Uncle T will know what to do, and he doesn't know, then nobody knows...

Not really silly when you look at the context of the phase "Doesn't have a clue" because Rafa style of play as currently architected cant get him to the qtrs of a any major or to defeat the lower ranked players with any consistency. Other players(JMDP, Fed, Djoker, Monfils, JoWillieTs, Murray) return from injuries or a layoff and resume their legendary status of defeating the lower ranked player but not Nadal.

When Fed (before this year) and Djoker have been out of the court for more than three weeks and without any practice because an injury? never! and even that they have lost against some lower ranked players like Stakhovsky, Seppi, Thiem, Kyrgios, Querrey, Vesely and someone else that I don't remember. Delpo for the first time after another return has played much better (only in Rio and apparently in the DC too). Murray after his back injury (two years ego) took some time to recovery even changing the coaches but at the end yes, he has improved a lot. Tsonga and Monfils? a lime and sand and anyway both have never won one MS and less a GS so I don't think they count too much even that both are very good players same like Berdych but something is not working well on them, maybe their head .
Uncle Toni has a clue but Rafa has the answer
 

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the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
the AntiPusher said:
Its been over 2 years:nono... I seriously doubt Toni has a clue. Toni is full of yesterday's lunch

That's a bit silly, brother. I'm sure, in fact, that he has a clue. But look at the last two years: wrist injury kept him out of the USO, then the appendix upended his year and so he basically wrote off 2014, which began with a back problem in Australia, which affected him too.

2015 he was physically fine but showed signs that his retreats through injury had broken his morale somewhat, his form was terrible and he became a plaything for FFF, FFS. He was awful, but we saw some incline. We all spoke about it. This year, he showed again that he's lost a bit of bottle, and he's also physically diminished, as all veterans inevitably are, and he flopped in Oz. After this? He looked good on clay, gave Djoker a huge terrific match in Rome, but then his other wrist went, and he dropped out of RG, and skipped Wimbledon. I'm sorry, but while the last few seasons have been terrible results wise, we can see a natural trend, where the body is slowing, breaking down, and mentally he's not as tough, maybe as a consequence.

This is the undeniable sequence, and no amount of senseless and ceaseless patter from John McEnroe on the practice court could change that. Uncle T will know what to do, and he doesn't know, then nobody knows...

Not really silly when you look at the context of the phase "Doesn't have a clue" because Rafa style of play as currently architected cant get him to the qtrs of a any major or to defeat the lower ranked players with any consistency. Other players(JMDP, Fed, Djoker, Monfils, JoWillieTs, Murray) return from injuries or a layoff and resume their legendary status of defeating the lower ranked player but not Nadal.

Well firstly, JoWillie is prolly only a legend in a nite club, but never on a tennis court. :p

But Rafa always made harder work of lower ranked players. He's not going to suddenly develop a strike first mentality, let alone game. He can hire in somebody to tinker with the serve, maybe, a mechanic to work on his wayward shots, but Toni knows more than these blokes all put together. You don't sack the architect, then start messing around with the foundations...
 

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Kieran said:
the AntiPusher said:
Kieran said:
That's a bit silly, brother. I'm sure, in fact, that he has a clue. But look at the last two years: wrist injury kept him out of the USO, then the appendix upended his year and so he basically wrote off 2014, which began with a back problem in Australia, which affected him too.

2015 he was physically fine but showed signs that his retreats through injury had broken his morale somewhat, his form was terrible and he became a plaything for FFF, FFS. He was awful, but we saw some incline. We all spoke about it. This year, he showed again that he's lost a bit of bottle, and he's also physically diminished, as all veterans inevitably are, and he flopped in Oz. After this? He looked good on clay, gave Djoker a huge terrific match in Rome, but then his other wrist went, and he dropped out of RG, and skipped Wimbledon. I'm sorry, but while the last few seasons have been terrible results wise, we can see a natural trend, where the body is slowing, breaking down, and mentally he's not as tough, maybe as a consequence.

This is the undeniable sequence, and no amount of senseless and ceaseless patter from John McEnroe on the practice court could change that. Uncle T will know what to do, and he doesn't know, then nobody knows...

Not really silly when you look at the context of the phase "Doesn't have a clue" because Rafa style of play as currently architected cant get him to the qtrs of a any major or to defeat the lower ranked players with any consistency. Other players(JMDP, Fed, Djoker, Monfils, JoWillieTs, Murray) return from injuries or a layoff and resume their legendary status of defeating the lower ranked player but not Nadal.

Well firstly, JoWillie is prolly only a legend in a nite club, but never on a tennis court. :p

But Rafa always made harder work of lower ranked players. He's not going to suddenly develop a strike first mentality, let alone game. He can hire in somebody to tinker with the serve, maybe, a mechanic to work on his wayward shots, but Toni knows more than these blokes all put together. You don't sack the architect, then start messing around with the foundations...

My lord Brotha..you are starting to sound like a Trump surrogate..Add to the coaching Staff not abolishing Toni..say it yourself again..Add to the current coaching staff as a tennis consultant, Add to the current coaching staff as a tennis consultant